bamboo fibers, ultraviolet light, constant rule changes. Welcome to a bizarre recount in Arizona's largest county ordered by the GOP controlled state Senate and run by a contractor with no election experience. Even the county's own republican leaders now wanted to stop welcome everybody. Just days after the november election, the county board of supervisors vouched for the result, joe biden won, no widespread fraud, no mysterious bamboo fibers found. There is no evidence of fraud or misconduct or malfunction in Maricopa county and that is with a big zero. It's not a conspiracy. Let's do a lightning round If we could of fact checking questions. Katie Hobbs is the Arizona secretary of state in charge of elections. She recently sent this letter to Maricopa County warning that since the state Senate seized its election equipment, quote, such loss of custody constitutes a cyber incident and that experts advise those devices should not be reused in future elections. Key questions on this recount. Has the election equipment been in the control of nonpartisan election administrators the whole time? No. Do you know what has been done to the equipment? No. Could the equipment have been tampered with? Yes. Should the machines be replaced? Yes. How much could that cost millions? $6 million? Was the original contract? Who pays for that? The taxpayers of Arizona, the Department of Homeland Security's cyber experts agree with Hobbs. A spokesman at the cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency tells the National investigative unit, quote, if it is determined that the chain of custody of critical systems has been compromised, the safest practice is to decommission and replace those systems. Would you trust these machines? Now? I would not. Eddie Perez worked for 15 years at Heart. Inter Civic, one of the three biggest election technology companies in America. He's now at the open source Elections Technology Institute, the same group that showed us in 2018 how easy it was to manipulate vote totals if someone had physical access to election equipment and you've just changed who won that election? Now? There's about to be another recount, this one in Fulton county Georgia once again demanded by trump supporters after numerous professional recounts and audits. And the very idea that they would be done not by election professionals, but but by parties that may have an allegiance to one side of the aisle or the other. That's a new and very dangerous trend that it just needs to stop. That's a very, very damaging trend for our democracy. Even President trump's own attorney general at the time of the election, Bill Barr declared there was no widespread fraud that would have changed the results of the election. Those are the facts. In Washington. I'm chief national investigative correspondent Mark Albert.